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remember back in 2004, george w. bush got obliterated by john kerry in the first debate. it was one of the worst performances in a debate i've ever seen. remember he asked for the extra time? then he'd just look in the camera and go, it's hard. it's hard. and yet he still won. this is not -- this keeps the game going, right? >> it do. i think -- i kept thinking about mark twain. the rumors of romney's political death were greatly exaggerated, but twain still died. >> well, there is that. god. thank you this morning for that insight. >> can we go to breaking news or a developing banner on that one? mark twain, dead. >> still dead. >> still dead. >> but i thought it was as -- i think '04 -- >> you know, he's funnier in central time zone. i'm sorry, go ahead. >> on something. >> you should see the stat yuue they have of willie geist down here. >> it's huge. >> i'm going to cite my -- the person who knows most about politics in my life, my 8-year-old daughter who came in and asked, why is president obama so mad? >> there you go. >> walked by the screen. >> i think that's a really, you k
and george w.? would you do that. i'm just teasing. >> i don't see george bush as an anathema. >> would you bring him out for the big rallies in columbus. >> the president probably doesn't want to participate in this campaign. but there are some spots in town he could probably help. >> how would you like w. out there campaigning for the other guy. >> i strongly recommend to romney that he campaign everywhere with george w. bush. if you look at all the data, people still blame by a margin of two to one the economic problems in this country on bush. so i think -- and the other thing, by the way, it would open up for the president is the very clear case that if you didn't like the bush/cheney years, you wouldn't like the romney years because he has the same policies and the same advisers. >> but the difference is that the obama years haven't improved that much now, have they? >> the obama years are pretty -- we didn't go into a great depression -- >> this is what voters are deciding. it was worse under w. but it's not good enough better -- you didn't clean up the bush mess welloff. thank you.
? whatever else you say about george w. bush, he was very good at pretending to be the sort of down home, you know, texas guy that you could have a beer with. remember, that was his great act, and ronald reagan before him did the same thing. bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally has been coasting on this notion, this sort of populist aura that hoverses around them and he's the opposite, you know. he's -- i was reading this great story in "rolling stone" the other day by matt taibbi about how mitt romney is like all of the terrible movie villains of the last 30 years. you know, he's the rich fraternity boy that's such a snob to the guys in animal house,
and a lot in the media treat president obama like he's the challenger. what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael, this is just in from mitt romney on how he'll pay for his massive 20% across the board tax cut. take a listen. >> everybody is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and you can use your charitable deduction or your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction, and you can full that $17,000 bucket and higher income people might have a lower number. or you could do it by the same method that boll/simpson did by limiting deductions. >> it's bucket and spades and he'll work it out with congress. is that a plausible response? >>
. george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think my credentials as a non-romney show are pretty well secured. i have good street cred for your audience. frankly, i thought mitt romney did the best job of advancing even a modicom of viewpoints and stepping up on a national stage than like when al gore invented the internet. mitt romney, unlike john mccain, mitt romney wants to win the presidency, and a lot of conservatives have asked themselves that question the past couple of weeks. i think frankly liberals ought
actually make it faster. this is where the obama campaign sees their opportunity. george w. bush, obviously, his prime economic policy was a set of very large tax cuts. they did not have a very positive effect on the economy, even before the recession. it was a very, very weak expansion. and so governor romney has come in and he's proposed very, very large tax cuts again. and he hasn't wanted, in order to get away from the bush part, he hasn't wanted to explain them too much. in fact, paul ryan, his running mate says, the math is just too hard. but it really isn't. and i would imagine the obama administration, or obama's going to go through tonight, you really only need to know two numbers about romney's tax plan, one is $480 billion. that's the cost of it in 2015, just to pick one year. and the other is $251 billion. that's the amount that will go to very wealthy families. now, mitt romney's promise, his tax plan won't cost a dime on the deficit. so he somehow needs to get $480 billion out of the tax code by closing breaks and loopholes, seems like the mortgage interest deduction, and also
we all inherited from george w. bush to something better. romney came out best in the first debate because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he do denied his plan to limit nate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bolterring to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the energy ro emergency room. let's look at the some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days sibts the debate and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely voters. romney is surging ahead to 49%. four wee
strategists like george h.w. bush or a richard nixon, i think nixon would be turning over in his grave and i bet bush is grimacing because these were serious guys dealing with tectonic forces that were huge and they knew what the risk to the country were, and they moderated. not everyone would like me attributing richard nixon on your show, but the fact is that he would have serious problems with what mitt romney did and i think both of them would say he just doesn't get it. he doesn't understand the stewardship responsibilities of the president of the united states. his speech, if you think about it, was a speech designed for the 1950s when america was six times larger than the next biggest economy, could do all things in all places. he attributed george marshall in this speech, who was a great man in my view, it was interesting he spent so much time on israel in his speech today but it was george marshall who was -- >> i think he's appealing to the evangelicals on that front. i think it's pure politics. >> what's interesting about the speech is there's a lot of talk about strength and reso
for the president as bad a performance add george w. bush had in his first debate against john kerry. >> the president had an opportunity tonight. he created a problem for himself on social security tonight. he agrees with mitt romney. every liberal in this country knows that mitt romney wants to privatize social security down the road. and to do a deal with the devil on that would be the wrong thing to do. i think the president created a big problem for himself. i don't think he explained himself very well on the economy. i thought he was off his game. i was stunned tonight. rash elyou just mentioned about time, the president needs to get in and fight for that time. there's people that expect him to fight for that time. >> i thought the one thing that mitt romney did tonight that he has not done for the duration of the campaign and was very effective was just lop off the right wing of his party. he didn't care about them tonight. if something was popular, more money for community schools, he was for that. it didn't matter if it would make the right wing, how. whenever the president
years go by and we still haven't gotten bin laden to read george w. bush said he doesn't think much about bin laden. in the interim we invaded afghanistan and invade iraq because cheney wanted to help out his buddies at brown and root and halliburton. and grab up all of the wheel. i think that they were worried about upsetting the saudi arabia royalty money. laughter kirsanow osama bin laden finally is gunned down by barack obama displaying great courage and intelligence. what more do you want to leave your country than that kind of courage and that kind of intelligence? [applause] >> our final offering tonight comes from hugo chavez's say the debate could favorite sycophant or as i like to call with his favorite busboy. if you are sean penn and you have something really asinine and you want to get out there, where do you go? that's right, piers morgan. mr. penn delivered one of the most asinine comments ever on television. can we call cnn national television any more? and even worse, she insisted that we know that this was -- ki insisted that we know that this is his original thoug
it's about power on a certain level. i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in some ways they have been more skillful and more ruthless in the way that they have moved the levers of power. in washington and outside of washington, to get stuff done. >> joy, i don't think the republicans have a karl rove a. malignant sense of power, i'm going to be the architect and i'm going to rule and they are spreading the money around and trying to get back the power. it does seem almost obsessive, the love of the white house. >> i think eugene robinson is right. for conservatives, the idea of being the cowboy, they like the self-image for themselves and
the only one you can really argue that did was george w. bush and al fore in 2000, even gerald ford a story people like to tell, ford fell more behind before the debate that doesn't mean the debates couldn't be a decider in this election, of course they could, but i think we should to into it with fairly low expectations of how much they will move the polls until we see otherwise. >> rose: exactly. point well-taken. on the other hand, one of the things that was beginning to creep in was this was not winnable, i don't think people came out of last night thinking it wasn't winnable, do you? >> i agree. >> i think in a macro sense of three big things he accomplished, he, for a good long while, at least for the next debate he eliminated thi concern among republicans this thing isn't winnable. and two is, i think he showed people what he is like. >> rose: right. >> more than he ever had. he didn't do it at the convention well enough, it is hard to do in fizzing, it is hard to do even on this program, because the audience, the prepressure of the debate i think he really did and the other thing he
beat up george w. bush in the first debate back if 2004. but it was clear that mitt romney got a big win because of his strong debate performance. >> or walter mondale on ronald reagan for that matter. onto the conspiracy theory, jared bernstein, we heard from him earlier, he told me also this doesn't deserve any oxygen at all but others keep piling on. are you surprised by these claims from prominent people, well-respected people in industry? >> well, there are two different sort of sets on the republican side here. one is the jack welch side, the steve forbes, the people who are promulgating this conspiracy. the others are the folks who are serious economists. you talk to jared bernstein on the left. but douglashall john mccain's former policy adviser says the same thing in a story this morning. elaine child the former george w. bush's labor secretary said the same thing. so serious republicans who understand that these are two totally different surveys, they sort of understand the process and the way bls works there's not really a conspiracy here. >> can i ask you? you've been aro
. he was terrible. it happened to george h.w. bush in 1992 in his first re-election debate. he was terrible. it happened to george w. bush in 2004 in his first re-election debate. he was terrible as well. it is hard to be that insulated for four years. and this one takes being insulated to a new degree, this president does. as did george w. bush, i think, in his eight years. so i guess it is human nature to come out and be shocked that somebody's punching you in the face after being so protected and basically play some bubble wrap in four years like we do with our president. >> the president is usually pretty good when the game's on the line. and the game's going to be on the line in two weeks. he's got to perform better or it will be a real problem. i think just to focus on the debates forgets the fact that governor romney needs to perform in the next two weeks. he can't just wait for the next debate. he did a conservative event. he did hannity. i still don't get the logic of his friday. >> how many days out are we, and he is finally -- >> he should do "letterman." >> i get th
reagan's whose campaign i managed did terrible in the first debate against mondale. george w. bush did terrible. jimmy carter did terrible. george h.w. bush did terrible. presidents don't get pushed around when they're president in the white house. nobody stands up whether john kerry or anybody else push him around. i don't think he was on. he couldn't defend his own programs. he thought it was beneath him and that attitude came in through all the way. no question mitt romney knew the ballgame was yesterday. he was looking forward to make his case. debated extremely well 20 some odd debates when republican primariry. he is much stronger debater than four years ago. my sense he will be a strong debate all the way through. megyn: michael, i want to ask if romney did sufficient job connecting with american people that he needed to do? so question he did on sparring on points but did he connect? there were a couple moments he tried to or maybe he did. i want to get your take. first commenting on barack obama acknowledged it was his wedding anniversary last night. listen here. >> congratula
had 7,000 debates earlier this year. george w. bush had the same thing in his first debate with senator kerry. so very often presidents do have a rough time in the first debate. jim lehrer was no help at all. i think you are going to see a much more energized barack obama, and all of these smug conservatives saying that paul ryan is going to mop the floor with joe biden. forget about it. >> stephanie: look at his speech. ryan's speech at the rnc, john that was just about as thoroughly fact checked -- >> oh my gosh. that speech just got home to his wife last night. >> stephanie: we just said that's where the jump in jobs has happened in fact checkers. >> yes. >> stephanie: john fugelsang remains in the side car. we continue with the remaining moments of fridays with fugelsang on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: highbrow low brow unibrow. it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. >>current will let me say
. he was the republican party nominee for senator from louisiana and president george h. w. bush was forced to come out and tell voters to vote for the democrat. i want to see mitt romney's feet put to the fire in much the same way. either cut this guy loose or defend him but mitt romney has to choose one. this new piece of audio is more damaging. this is a few months old. this is a piece of oughtio from a town hall meeting that congressman akin had. and an older male voter got up and asked him why he would oppose the lilly ledbetter act which promoted fair pay for women. todd akin's response is something that i think rand paul could have done more artfully but essentially, it's pretty much the most friendly endorsement of legal discrimination you will ever hear. let's listen. >> i believe in free enterprise. i think it is about freedom. if somebody wants to hire somebody and they agree on a salary. that's fine. however it wants to work. so the government sticking its nose in is a huge problem. >> john: the g
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